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		<description><![CDATA[Tips, insights and comment on direct response marketing and copywriting<br /><br />Master copywriter John Carlton is holding a workshop this coming May 2-4.  What&#8217;s interesting is the way he and his business partner Stan Dahl have chosen to market the event.  They&#8217;ve decided to auction off the 20 available places on eBay. They are using a &#8220;Dutch Auction&#8221; process.  How this works is that if you [...]<br /><br />"More Clients...More Sales...More Cash In Your Pocket!'<br /><br />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><p>Master copywriter John Carlton is holding a workshop this coming May 2-4.  What&#8217;s interesting is the way he and his business partner Stan Dahl have chosen to market the event.  They&#8217;ve decided to auction off the 20 available places on eBay.</p>
<p>They are using a &#8220;Dutch Auction&#8221; process.  How this works is that if you want to attend, you submit a bid along with everyone else who is interested. When the auction closes, the 20 people who submitted the highest bids get a place.  The price for each place is then determined as the price bid by the lowest bid in the top 20.  So, everyone who attends get to pay the same price. </p>
<p>Now, I have to give credit to John Carlton, he has been testing out a lot of new ideas and approaches lately and taking risks (for example, the &#8220;open survey&#8221; he did to ask why more people hadn&#8217;t joined his coaching club).  I have to wonder a little about the wisdom of this latest idea.</p>
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<p>Clearly, the hope is that there&#8217;s going to be a frenzy of interest and people are going to end up bidding and paying a higher price than they would otherwise.  But for this to happen, it seems to me you need two preconditions&#8230;</p>
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<li>Firstly, you need a big crowd, more than the 20 available places, who are serious about bidding.</li>
<li>Secondly, what you&#8217;re offering needs to be something that the crowd desperately wants.  The proverbial &#8220;Greed Glands&#8221; need to be fully activated.</li>
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<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure John Carlton has a huge crowd that follows him and is potentially interested in attending a workshop.</p>
<p>However, from what I&#8217;ve seen so far, condition #2 isn&#8217;t in place.</p>
<p>The workshop is called <a target="_blank" href="http://www.carlton-workshop.com/index.html">&#8220;John Carlton&#8217;s 17 Point Copywriting Checklist Workshop&#8221;</a>.  The big promise is that John has finally figured out his exact process for writing killer copy and that with this 17 point checklist you have the &#8220;keys to the vault&#8221; to produce winning promotions and make tons of money.  From the headline, seems to be aimed at marketers and business owners, rather than specialist copywriters.</p>
<p>Excuse me if I find that a less than compelling proposition.  Sure, any workshop or event with John Carlton is going to be well worth attending.</p>
<p>However, in the situation we&#8217;re looking at, the bidders need to be hungry and rapid!  This event seems to be just another workshop.</p>
<p>Contrast this with the situation when Frank Kern used the auction approach to market a very exclusive event by Neil Strauss, legendary &#8220;pickup artist&#8221; and author of the bestselling book &#8220;The Game&#8221;.  In this case, Neil had never held a workshop like this before and attendance was very limited.  Plus, the market is one that is truly &#8220;rapid&#8221; for the product.  The auction was, unsurprisingly, a huge success.</p>
<p>But Frank Kern is an absolute master of creating rabid (I&#8217;m using that word a lot today!) desire for a product.  In the case of John Carlton&#8217;s workshop, that step seems to have been glossed over.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all very well me pontificating, but what&#8217;s actually happening?  If you head on over to the <a target="_blank" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=150232789242">eBay page &#8220;John Carlton&#8217;s 17 Points Of Copywriting Workshop&#8221;</a> you can follow the action.</p>
<p>As at the time of writing this post, the clearing price is US$1,125 and there is 16 hours 44 minutes to go before the auction closes.</p>
<p>Now, of course, a lot of the action is going to happen in the run up to the close.  And I&#8217;m no expert on auctions.  But, I have to say that at this point it doesn&#8217;t look like this idea is proving to be a runaway success.</p>
<p>We&#8221;ll have to see what happens at the close.  But, to me, if the clearing price isn&#8217;t well over US$5,000 then I&#8217;d suggest that&#8217;s a disappointing result (check out the copy for the workshop&#8230;there&#8217;s a clear indication that the minimum price should be US$5,000).</p>
<p>Couple of observations&#8230;</p>
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<li>As mentioned, I think there hasn&#8217;t been enough effort put into making the event a &#8220;must attend&#8221;.  The title sucks, in my opinion, as well.</li>
<li>The process seems to have confused people.  Stan Dahl has put up a video to explain how the auction works plus there&#8217;s now a &#8220;Frequently Asked Questions&#8221; page (an essential part of any promotion like this).</li>
<li>Everyone seems to have got caught up in the novelty of the auction process, rather than selling the event! Emails I&#8217;ve received from people like Rich Schefren focus on this angle.  This is a big mistake, in my opinion.  It&#8217;s falling into the trap many mainstream copywriters make with cute, funny or curiosity-based headlines&#8230;that fail to contain a relevant benefit!  On it&#8217;s own, novelty is not going to sell.</li>
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<p>OK, that&#8217;s my 2 cents!  In less than 24 hours we&#8217;ll know the result and &#8220;Mr Sceptic&#8221; here may well be left with egg on my face! I&#8217;m working without a net here, folks! </p>
<p>Goes without saying, of course, that I am a huge admirer of John Carlton&#8217;s work.  I have most of his materials including the &#8220;Freelance Copywriters Course&#8221; and the swipe files are one of the most valuable parts of my library.  Plus, I take my hat off to John and Stan for testing  different approach.</p>
<p>Tune in tomorrow to see what happens!</p>
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